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i think the artist puts A LOT of thought into the song order, changing the order is heresy!
stellablueeeParticipanthttp://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2008/10/catching-up-with-lucinda-williams.html
lisastellablueeeParticipantoh chrissie is just great. she’s really embraced the americana thing. she showed up at the mccabe’s 50 year anniversary last week, here’s a blurb about it:
It was also a kick to hear Peter Rowan lead the house band (which included Michael Jerome on drums, Debra Dobkin on percussion and Taras Prodaniuk on bass) in a Bill Monroe tune, the Ditty Bops dance and sing beside Hicks, and special guest Chrissie Hynde, looking lean and sexy, admitted she never actually played McCabe’s, but was so jazzed by the line-up she “blagged” her way into the show. Using an acoustic guitar, she performed two motor-mouthed, Dylanesque songs from the Pretenders’ new album “Break Up The Concrete” that would have sounded right at home on McCabe’s stage.
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117938604.html?categoryid=34&cs=1
thanks lefty, that made me smile! they’ve sandblasted my “hearts on fire” from cap rock, but i’ll put it back on my next trip out there.
http://www.laweekly.com/slideshow/view/147562/3?play=true
stellablueeeParticipantYou should try it, since you’ve already resorted to antagonize and condescend others”
I believe you started it with your long winded complaint.
“I think musicians especially, need to be careful and aware of their demographics before launching an offense on their own supporters”.
Thank the stars that lucinda can make up her own mind, and has the wisdom and courage to do so.
cheers!
stellablueeeParticipantYour saying that everyone on this forum whose children are in daycare for whatever
reason….are “dumping them”yep, that’s what i’m saying (with the exception of single parents of course)
Thats a pretty strong statement about a lot of people whose situations you know
nothing about.sounds like guilt to me.
i do have the right to express my feelings just like everyone else does. i don’t judge you or anyone else.
the children will be the judges.stellablueeeParticipantand why are you having children if you’re just going to dump them in daycare?
stellablueeeParticipant“Actually, I must have seen that one at the El Rey one of those nights”
when i first read about the el rey shows, i bought tix for all the nights, just to hear the rough trade album. (i was still in the throes of raising kids during those years and missed out on early lu)
if you collect older live shows, you know she used to do side of the road quite often, but the el rey show was my only time.a mutual aquaintance sent her my request to hear side of the road at the catalyst in santa cruz (the thought of him doing that was as nice or nicer then if she’d actually sung it for me!)
i’m guessing she wants to do the songs that her band knows best (as the perfectionist she is) and the new songs are great, so i don’t mind. i’ve been blessed by friends sending me some of those old shows, so it placates me i guess.
monday night at the el rey is on me at all times (along with ballad of sally rose, a jd souther compilation, the second set of a jayhawks show in seattle…hahahaha
among a few other cds that i just make sure i have with me at all times/multiple copies)i hope to hear em live again tho! 😉
stellablueeeParticipanti don’t want to sit, so i’ll make the ventura theater show.
last time they were there w/heartless bastards, guess that would be buick 6 now… and in doug’s backyard!
wish i’d bought the place in ventura keys that i had my heart set on 20 years ago, i live 40 miles due east from ventura/it’s a pleasant drive down the 126 so i’m sure i’ll be there (work gets in the way of too much of life as it is!)someone emailed me to say the floor at the wiltern doesn’t have seats any longer, i didn’t know that obviously…doh
i figure if the musician is standing on stage i can stand too……ha….i’ll eat these words one day soonly i’m sure.stellablueeeParticipantweds (a work night) at the ventura theater? and the wiltern? sigh…..
i’m so happy i drove up to santa cruz for the catalyst now. the wiltern is a lovely place, but for one who loves assigned, wide comfortable seats! i’ll have to decide the day of the ventura show to see if i can make it, but i’ll probably have to miss these shows darn it.stellablueeeParticipanti listen to the los angeles shows more then the new york shows (mostly for greg leisz the last two nights). i don’t think it’s because i was there, i just prefer them.
it’s a real shame that the second sets aren’t being released (maybe the second sets could be released on dvd instead of cds??? or a compilation of the best of all five night’s second sets/all the special guests…chuck prophet/mike cambell/shelby lynne, ann hart….etc)
we have the roughtrade re-release w/the dvd from the last night at the el rey to look forward to…….i guess that will have to suffice (besides audience recordings that are traded)stellablueeeParticipantbill frisell? sigh………..i would have been in heaven!
he’s doing a show at largo here next week with greg leisz that i plan on attending.stellablueeeParticipant“For the record, I think it’s the essence of patriotism myself”
i agree, the demise of newspapers is a bad sign for society, they’ll come back when the people demand it…..
we’re missing youthful righteous indignation, but maybe the minds of america have become comfortably numb…
let the flamethrowing commence!
just one opinion/i didn’t edit out the bad words cuz i know this site censors them for me.This is Your Nation on White Privilege
By Tim Wise
September 13, 2008For those who still can’t grasp the concept of white privilege, or who
are constantly looking for an easy-to-understand example of it,
perhaps this list will help.White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol
Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your
family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you,
or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black
and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified
as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.White privilege is when you can call yourself a “fuckin’ redneck,”
like Bristol Palin’s boyfriend does, who likes to “kick ass” if people
mess with you, and who likes to “shoot shit,” for fun, and still be
viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to
be) rather than a thug.White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six
years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of,
then returned to after making up some coursework at a community
college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to
achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as
unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first
place because of affirmative action.White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town
smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state
with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island
of Manhattan makes you ready to potentially be president, and people
don’t all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S.
Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means
you’re “untested.”White privilege is being able to say that you support the words “under
God” in the pledge of allegiance because “if it was good enough or the
founding fathers, it’s good enough for me,” and not be immediately
disqualified from holding office–since, after all, the pledge was
written in the late 1800s and the “under God” part wasn’t added until
the 1950s–while believing that reading accused criminals and
terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the constitution, which you
used to teach at a prestigious law school) requires it, is a dangerous
and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make
people immediately scared of you.White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an
extremist political party that wanted your state to secede from the
union, and whose motto was “Alaska first,” and no one questions your
patriotism or that of your family, while if you’re black and your
spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with
her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she’s
being disrespectful.White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and
the work they do–like, among other things, fight for the right of
women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end
to child labor–and people think you’re being pithy and tough, but if
you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month
governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in
college–you’re somehow being mean, or even sexist.White privilege is being able to convince white women who don’t even
agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your
running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the
ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made
them give your party a “second look.”White privilege is being able to fire people who didn’t support your
political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being
a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and
merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in
Chicago means you must be corrupt.White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose
pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize
George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly
Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian
theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who
say the conflict in the Middle East is God’s punishment on Jews for
rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you’re just a good
church-going Christian, but if you’re black and friends with a black
pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of
Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign
policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on
black people, you’re an extremist who probably hates America.White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by
a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you
such a “trick question,” while being black and merely refusing to give
one-word answers to the queries of Bill O’Reilly means you’re dodging
the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has
anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being
black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it a
“light” burden.And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possible
allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W.
Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing,
people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is
increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters
aren’t sure about that whole “change” thing. Ya know, it’s just too
vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which
is very concrete and certain…White privilege is…the problem.
September 12, 2008 at 6:34 pm in reply to: Lila Downs Covers Lucinda (In Spanish and English!!) #37041stellablueeeParticipantlila is great live…she has a rabid following/her shows sell out.
a band that is based in new york that i also like a lot is Pistolera, if you see lila in new york you’ll be seein’ them too….stellablueeeParticipanti’m still loving carrie’s newest too……..she’s opening for / playing with alejandro tonight and i couldn’t make it……but hopefully paul will go and give us a report.
a friend said (who saw them last night in san diego)
no greg leisz or don heffington and less carrie songs made her show the month earlier, much better shows.
lisastellablueeeParticipant“Can you bring her to Cincinnati to the Taft Theater or Music Hall which are both wonderfull old theaters with comfortable assigned seating, great acoustics, more seating, and just better ambiance”
no offense, but when lucinda starts playing venues “with comfortable assigned seating” that’s when i’ll have to stop going……i’ll fall asleep…..
the one sit down show i saw at the el rey was a great show (doug and lucinda acoustic) but i need to stand and move around when the music’s going, that’s why i get out of the house to hear so much live music, to get OFF my butt……..loved the catalyst show!!! and love that lila downs is doing i envy the wind……..!!!!!
i agree, lucinda ignites passion, and that’s a good thing for all of us…lisa
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