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@Rainydayman wrote:
@OpheliaPoet wrote:
My husband’s first cousin is unmarried and just had twins (she was medically inseminated).
I think I can speak for everyone here OpheliaPoet in that we really don’t need to know about your husband’s cousin’s medical insemination. That is way more information than I care to read in a thread about Lucinda’s political leanings. Way more.
Well, I’m damned if I do, damned if I don’t. If I had said she was unmarried and had twins and not explained that she did it by choice, then all the judgemental idiots would have piped in with their two cents worth about why she is a bad person or why the world doesn’t need kids that people will just “dump in daycare.” So, I tried to avoid all the stupidity – too late. You people never disappoint. But thank all of you who showed your maturity level – really nice.
@stevarino wrote:
PS: I took a year and a half off work after my twins were born to take care of them at home, but then “dumped them” into a commercial daycare and resumed my career. They are in 6th grade now and play music, read extensively, are artistic, but most of all very well behaved and responsible. They are in a few advanced classes, and score in the top few percent in most standard tests. And we don’t really even push them, we mostly let them choose what they want to do. On our photo display in our foyer alongside pictures of friends and family are also pictures of some of the wonderful daycare providers our kids (and we) loved, for a time they were a part of our family. Its just people man, and there are plenty of good ones out there. I’m glad they were there when I needed them.
Amen! I agree! Some people aren’t as lucky as you and I are. My childcare provider (my sister-in-law) came to our house today to look at our Halloween decorations and spent more than an hour playing with my son. It’s about making the child feel loved and happy. Everyone has a unique situation. My husband’s first cousin is unmarried and just had twins (she was medically inseminated). Her father will be caring for the baby boys – whatever works for them. Congratulations on the great kids, Stevarino!
@stellablueee wrote:
You should try it, since you’ve already resorted to antagonize and condescend others”
I believe you started it with your long winded complaint.
“I think musicians especially, need to be careful and aware of their demographics before launching an offense on their own supporters”.
Thank the stars that lucinda can make up her own mind, and has the wisdom and courage to do so.
cheers!
First, who did I condescend or antagonize in my long-winded complaint? Did I antagonize the lucky folks who get to stay home with their kids for free because I work and pay (high) taxes? Or, was it the poor people who come out of college with no student loan debt while I spend the next decade paying mine? Maybe I antagonized people who can’t have children or those who are bitter that they waited too long? Exactly WHOM did I antagonize? Your response signifies that I apparently antagonized you, so why?
Second, the ability to make up one’s mind does not make one informed or enlightened. Also, is the ability to make up one’s mind wise and courageous, as you stated? I never thought of it that way. Probably because it doesn’t make sense.
Happy Friday! 🙂 🙂 🙂@stellablueee wrote:
and why are you having children if you’re just going to dump them in daycare?
What a narrow-minded, ignorant comment. Not that you deserve a reply to such a disgustingly shallow and self-righteous statement, but I would like to set you straight. My son’s “daycare” is at my sister-in-law’s house, which is ½ a mile from our house. He is the ONLY child there and he is played with, doted on, and catered to all day long. She feeds him breakfast, lunch, and snacks and takes him to preschool two days a week. People come by all week to visit with him and play. He has 16 cousins in the area and hundreds of members of extended family. She takes him on daily walks on the river trail with his grandmother, reads to him, does art projects with him, houses at least 4 ride-in vehicles of his in her garage, lets him play with their dog, and soothes his boo-boos unlike anyone else but me.
I have worked off and on for most of his young life, as finances allowed. I went back to work full-time in May, with the stipulation that I could work from home at times. I have a VERY flexible schedule and understanding workplace; and I make VERY good money. That money pays for all the extra things that my husband and I can afford to give to or do with our son, which most people cannot afford. We’ve had 4 or 5 small vacations this year (practical, but fun for him). My son loves school and is in a fantastic preschool, the cost of which is not subsidized. His teacher is the school’s Director and has been there nearly 45 years. We take him to aquariums, orchards (his class also went last week), country fairs, outdoor concerts, fishing, and camping. He enjoys many sports and LOVES to play guitar. He played guitar before he could walk. He’s a better “beginner” than kids quadruple his age. He has access to dozens of instruments in our home. He also has a library of thousands of books and CDs at his disposal as he grows, ones we have collected or have been passed to us from family – most of which I had before my husband and I were married. He has more books than many children do. We can afford these things because I work and because we live within our means – which would be a little more comfortable if all of the parts of our finances that are out of our hands were more controlled. We are responsible with our money and my son’s saving’s account has more money than mine does right now! We put every gift of money he receives right into his account and $10-$20 a week from our own money.
But, I digress…for you to make such a broad, uncaring statement was irresponsible and shameful. I was in a “stay-at-home mom’s group” for a while. I quit because the message boards overflowed with concerns about their husbands cheating and the mothers were gossipy and complained non-stop. I don’t love my son less than a mother who stays home with hers, I just am able to balance more, I guess. I just want more for my child and will stop at nothing to provide him with many opportunities. Next year, he’ll be in school ½ a day, napping for two hours, then eating, and playing the other three. What am I missing there? I am not so selfish to keep my son to myself for his whole life. He needs other humans as much as I do. We love each other, but we’re all healthier and happier with a little variety. You should try it, since you’ve already resorted to antagonize and condescend others.
@quackersmacker wrote:
OpheliaPoet, you have many very good points in your posts.
And as a Veteran, I hope your brother has a full recovery.
Glenn
Awwww…I love PA and I like Quackersmacker (P.S. A what?)
Thanks, Glenn. He’s doing much better physically; but we all know it’s a long road emotionally. He and the driver get their Purple Hearts this month. They’d rather have their friend Lance Eakes back.Rainydayman wrote:Oh please, Ophelia, I am a red blooded American too, and that’s why I am so frustrated with the horrible direction that our great nation has taken. By buying the protest CD I’m not protesting against America, I’m protesting against the poor leadership we currently have.]I’m sick to death of hearing people whine about the poor leadership or bash the administration. More than half of us voted for the President, and most of us would have made the same choices in the same situation under the circumstances presented yet, when things go downhill, all the fair-weather citizens want to jump ship and withdraw their support. None of us has the ability to make decisions to affect only one certain outcome or we would have a psychic for President. We make decisions based on the information we have at the time of the decision. I’m tired of peoples’ back-peddling.
Also, you must realize that problems at any given time are generally a result of the PREVIOUS administration. Regan inherited Carter’s problems, Bush inherited Clinton’s, etc. It takes years for changes to come to fruition; they don’t happen overnight. People have short memories when it comes to faulting people they supported. For instance, if Clinton had pushed Hussein to allow the UN inspectors in Iraq, we never would have gone to war. 9/11 was not the reason we went into Iraq. The impetus was threats by Saddam Hussein (no relation to our Democratic candidate) that he had WMD, a threat we could not ignore IN LIGHT of 9/11. Nobody remembers that, conveniently.
We have all lost a lot. I’m ticked off that I am still paying $3.44 for a gallon of gas. I’ve lost nearly $10K from my 401K. My family pays a fortune for insurance and prescriptions. My bank was just purchased by another bank and my mortgage company is being investigated. None of this is my fault. I checked all the boxes. I graduated high school, have good credit, have been married almost 9 years, have a child, finished college, work full time, give philanthropically, serve jury duty when called (and it’s often in my state, by different courts!), and I vote at each election.
I would like a break on healthcare, but I am not willing to foot the bill for people who aren’t contributing to “the system.” I would like a break on the gas bill, but I would not want an oil rig that I can see from shore. I would like my $44,000 in student loans to be forgiven since I graduated at the top of my class and feel like I earned a break (I worked full time and had a baby while I was in school – and had a 4.0 GPA). I am also unwilling to pay for people who do not work or maintain an A average to go to school. It is a privilege, not a right. I would at the very least like my interest rate on my student loans to be lower or graduated (the longer you pay, the more you pay/higher rate). I would like many things and I am willing to work hard for them, but I am tired of working hard and advancing at a snail’s pace. I want my son to stay little forever yet; I realize that once he is in school, that’s $800 less I will pay a month for childcare. Now we are hoping to have another baby and I’m guessing that between childcare costs and preschool cost increases, we’ll be in the same place less $500 more a month this time next year if I do have another. I don’t have $500 extra a month. I am tired of constantly thinking of what sacrifices my family has to make (and don’t get me wrong, I understand that there are millions of people in the world who would trade places with me in a second-I get that). I mostly want to know that Social Security will be there for me and my children and that we will have my loans paid off in time to send my son to college – and be able to afford to send him.
I admit that I do not support John McCain 100%. He is a liberal Republican and I don’t like all his ideas; however, the alternative is a man who I never heard of before Oprah Winfrey publicly touted him and even now, I don’t understand his qualifications for the job. He doesn’t seem to have a great record for showing up and has little experience – none of which was executive. Why exactly is he qualified? I think he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and I guarantee that if and when he makes it to the White House, his main objective (a la Bill Clinton, whom I actually liked a little better than I like Obama now) will be hosting Hollywood soirées with the likes of Babs, Oprah, and Scarlett Johanson (they’re email buds apparently). The Lincoln bedroom will be the hottest ticket in town. They will unroll the red carpet on the front lawn and it will just be a sad state. I think Obama is uninspiring, uninteresting, unqualified, incapable, and probably not sure right now how he got where he is. His wife is even scarier.
Rainydayman – you’re just another whiner. Buy two CDs. One to listen to and one to burn in protest.
I personally think it is really strange that some celebrities/artists are so vocal about their politics. Maybe they all do so well that they are not afraid of risking losing a few fans? I think musicians especially, need to be careful and aware of their demographics before launching an offense on their own supporters.
I am an Army brat. I have at least 13 Patriots from whom I am descended who fought for our Independence. Some of my ancestors settled in Virginia and Pennsylvania three to four centuries ago. My brother has continued the military tradition in our family, to our great pride. He was nearly killed in Taji, Iraq on April 18, 2008. His gunner was killed when their vehicle drove past a roadside IED. The vehicle flipped end-over-end twice. My brother had two, eight inch gashes in his skull and fractured his C-7 vertebrae. He lost a friend, and several others in his unit that month, including his best friend two weeks before. Even through all of this, he would board a plane tonight to fight for his country and follow whatever mission his Commander-in-Chief set before him. I don’t understand where peoples’ sense of service has gone. People are so concerned about their own rights and entitlements these days that they forget that people sacrificed their lives over many, many years to attain those rights for them. Some people don’t understand duty and sacrifice. What a nice, carefree, “peace”ful, loving illusion to live in. I won’t be buying the protest CD. I am a red blooded American.
I read here on her site that if you pre-order her CD (which I will, thank you very much)…you get a free MP-3 that is not available anywhere else… my 401K lost $8,000 recently – I will take all the freebies I can get. I might not have money to retire when I’m ready, but I will have every lick, every word, every moan that Lucinda Williams (the Great) recorded, by God.
My husband bought tickets the minute they went on sale Saturday and we got the best seats we’ve EVER had! We’ll be about 10-15 feet from the stage! This is our 6th show and I still get giddy each time! I love seeing her at the Shubert. Our very first Lucinda show was there, Sept. 10, 2001!!!!!
@DavidinMaine wrote:
At concerts there is often pot smoking
We smelled someone smoking at the concert, now we know who it was….
You obviously don’t have children if you think that children under 16 only have attention spans suited for water parks. What a narrow-minded generalization. Some parents actually like introducing their children to many avenues of art and culture, including concerts. My son is very well behaved and will definitely attend concerts when he is old enough to stay up a bit later. It’s not uncommon for a 3 or 4 year old to sit through a 2 hour movie, so a concert would be easy.
The point you are missing is that this wasn’t a $45 night at the intimate Calvin Theatre, but a $20 night at the Lowell Summer Concert Series, where many families could afford to attend and many people who weren’t familiar with Lucinda came because of the price -not to mention that she was outside, within earshot of..downtown! We know Lucinda has a proclivity for trash-talk, we’re just a little miffed why she wouldn’t have the desire to tone it down a little for the audience. A good analogy would be wearing a low-cut blouse and mini-skirt to high tea. It might look fine in a bar, but a tea party just isn’t the right place to wear it. We’re just saying that she should have considered the audience. Why alienate many because of one? Do you think that she impressed newcomers by launching her tirade? If that was my first concert and I knew little about her, I would have been put off by her attack. She’s a very smart woman and I would have been more impressed if she had replied with a biting, one-liner. You can be edgy and have class at the same time; but that is just my opinion.
I’m still mad the whole thing happened. She was in a bad mood, which affected the show and the mood of the show, which in turn affected the audience and the mood of the evening. My least favorite of the 5 shows I have seen – by a country mile.
I thought the park allowed to many people in, for starters. We drove in from CT and ended up sitting under trees (stage left), which was fine, but in mud on a slight incline. I would have preferred the grass, but we had to find a square foot somewhere for our chairs. Way too many people. They need a bigger park or a smaller crowd, personally.
I liked that Lu started with a bunch of mellow songs. She was working toward a crescendo, people! It was a beautiful night; the sun had just set, and she was just soaking in the evening. I was ticked when that woman in the back yelled, “pick it up Lucinda!” Come on! Don’t tell a Grammy-award winning artist how to do her job! Just relax and enjoy the show. I think it’s fine to yell out requests, as people always do at her shows, but telling her to pick up the pace is bossy and annoying.
I think it was a little ironic that Lucinda said about all the bugs that you find out, “who’s really the boss” a few minutes before one dive-bombed her vocal cords! I felt for her though -gross. I think I was gagging with empathy.
WTF with the verbal assault? Let me first say that my husband is no stranger to the “F” word when I am steaming (I’m Scots/Irish/Welsh – get over it!), but I would NEVER use it in front of a crowd, especially one with families. I can appreciate the raunchy aggressiveness of the word in a song, especially her songs, which are beautifully angry and hopelessly sexual…but the tongue lashing left even the least prudish of us blushing. I was as embarrassed as the “guy,” I’m sure! Also, I don’t understand the backlash of the Pink Floyd comment being followed by Zepplin, the Doors, and AC/DC! Does she just hate Pink Floyd or what? It was a bit hypocritical if you ask me. I have a short temper too though, so I can understand how Lu was doing her thing, jammin’, fighting kamikaze bugs, having coughing spells, and Pink Floyd was just the straw that broke the camel’s back …I guess.
All in all, I enjoyed the night. I had hoped to meet her again and have her sign something (my husband would count here). I hoped she would invite us to go onto her bus to listen to her jam for a few hours, but alas, she did not. The only thing that would have made me happy would have been seats in the front, but we couldn’t get there at 4am. So, I am happy to say that I went to my 5th Lucinda show and look forward to number 6.
One more thing. I don’t normally like hearing new songs, but I LOVE LOVE LOVED the three new ones she did play. I’m going to predict two Grammys for the new album! I CAN’T WAIT TO BUY THE NEW CD in September! That said, I still like hearing Passionate Kisses, Changed the Locks, and wish she would play Big Red Sun Blues and most of all…SIDE OF THE ROAD.
Love to LU!
