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Thanks for the setlist and reviews. Metal Firecracker, nice…I don’t think I’ve seen that one on a setlist in a while.
Well, it seems like she tours a lot on the West Coast, so maybe she’s saturated that market. I don’t know. The shows I’ve seen her play in the Midwest have all been well-attended. Personally, from a selfish standpoint I say the smaller and more intimate the venue, the better; of course, I know for Lucinda and company it’s ideal to be able to sell out larger and larger venues.
As for show quality, I think it’s been about steady in the three years I’ve been seeing her. Some shows blew me away and others were only pretty good, but I don’t really see a pattern there. I chalk it more up to night-to-night differences than any trend. While I like the new album, I don’t love it like her older stuff, so I have the opposite view in many ways: I think the fire and passion is still there, I just don’t personally like many of the new songs as much as I like others.
1) Shows that would have a chronological setlist like the second set of the first show in Mpls or the show in Madison (1-10)
This was definitely a nice surprise in Madison, mainly because of the rarer songs Lucinda chose to play that night. I certainly wouldn’t mind more shows like this, but honestly, I’d have liked that show just as much if the exact same songs had been played, but in a different order. I guess what I’m saying is that this is about a 6 for me – not a high priority, but it definitely wouldn’t be a bad thing, either.
2) Shows that would have split sets -with the first set being ballads etc, a break, and then the second set being rock (1-10)
This could be interesting. I’d rate this maybe an 8. Though similar to my answer to #1, I’d probably feel about the same towards a set that happened to be half ballads and half rock songs but alternated throughout as I would to the split-set idea. Either way, I’d love to hear more ballads.
3) Similar to number 2– in larger cities where we could do it or where the right venue exists–doing two nights, with the first night being the ballads etc and the second night more rock (1-10)
I’d like this a lot. Call it a 9. What I particularly like is the idea of a two-night stand where almost no songs are repeated from night to night (and again, more ballads are always a good thing).
4) Closing the year with a return of the album shows -probably only in one city (1-10)
10! And I’d selfishly point out that given that it’s been done in NY and LA, it would make a ton of sense to do this in, say, Chicago. In any case, I think it’s a great idea and would also add that while I understand that maybe this particular album goes back too far, it would be incredible if Lucinda decided to do a Happy Woman Blues night.
5) Don’t change anything -I like the shows as they are. (1-10)
While I do like the shows as they are – I certainly enjoyed Madison last month – I think shaking things up is usually a good thing, so I’ll rate this a 5.
In a different and more general category:
1) To offset the venues that charge Ticketmaster fees -we are considering offering those fees back as a credit at the merch table -does this have appeal (1-10)Hmm…you know, I think this is a really cool and generous thing to think about, and I’d really appreciate the gesture. Ultimately, though, I don’t know if this would really make a difference with merch sales (which after all, would be a big reason to do it), and I don’t hold the Ticketmaster fees against Lucinda or her management. Call this a 5, too.
2) Being aware of the past fan club fiasco- does a fan club hold any appeal if it made sense and had value? (1-10)
I’m not aware of the past “fan club fiasco,” and I’d say this really depends on what it would be. IMO, we’ve got a pretty nice fan community going here (and a big strength of it is the constant input from management, which is very much appreciated). I can think of some things that would be really amazing (a fan club-only show, chances to meet Lucinda), but I don’t know if they’re anything she’d be interested in. In any case, I’ll vote this an 8 based on it making sense and having value…I’m just not all that sure what it would entail.
3) The possibility of being able to buy tickets before the general public -(possibly as part of a fan club?) (1-10)
10, 10, 10! For seated shows, it’s very important to me to be able to get great seats, and I’m in favor of anything that makes that easier. I do have to say that thus far, I’ve thought that ticket sales for Lucinda have gone much smoother and are much better for the fans than they are for a lot of other artists. I’ve already gotten great seats (including front row a couple times) for seated shows; however, I would guess that right now the way tickets are sold really depends on the individual show and venue. So anything to standardize that process for all shows to give fans a chance at getting the best seats would be great.
4) More live releases -(possibly as part of a fan club?) (1-10)
4a) Digital only (1-10)
4b) Prefer cd (1-10)I thought the album shows from last year were done really well and offered at a reasonable price. I’d definitely welcome the chance to buy more shows, particularly if recordings were offered for particularly special shows (unusual setlists, surprise guests, etc). As for the format, it depends on the price. If they’d be the same price either way, I’d rate them each an 8. If digital-only meant being able to sell them for a bit less money than CDs, I’d rate digital-only an 8 and CDs a 7.
5) What cities have we missed?
Well, speaking from my Wisconsin perspective, you’ve been doing a great job. I’ve seen Lucinda 8 times in the past 3 years without traveling beyond WI/IL/IA…and I’ve passed up several shows that I could’ve made distance-wise.
6) And last but not least, what did I miss?–consider this the suggestion box.
Well, Tom, I can’t really think of anything else. As I hope I’ve said numerous times, I appreciate the level of interaction between fans and management that takes place here. About the only other thing I’d say is that I think it’s great that Lucinda’s been revisiting some older songs and mixing up her setlists…the more of that, the better. She’s written and performed so many great songs in her career, and as a concertgoer I’d love to hear as many of them as possible. Any old songs and rarities that she decided to break out again in ’09 would be welcome.
All I Want. I have a few different recordings of it, from 1980 to 1993, and I would rank it up there with anything else she’s written; certainly, it’s my favorite song that has not shown up on an album.
Given that she looked back to the ’80s for two songs on Little Honey, and that she’s brought back a lot of other older songs that hadn’t been played in a while, I think this one merits another look.
Other than that, I’d love to hear just about anything. Still haven’t caught a cover of Masters of War, which would be great. Cold, Cold Heart was (I think) the first Lucinda song I ever heard, and that would be great to hear in concert. Also, I was just listening to the Rough Trade album last weekend and forgot how much I like Sundays.
Well, I just think splitting things up the way the Orpheum does is weird. You’re absolutely right, though, that once we got inside it was clear how it was going to work. I just prefer venues that are either all standing and it’s very clear that you need to stake out a spot early, or all seats and while you may end up standing during the show, at least you won’t have people crowding you and pushing past you all night. Oh well. I do prefer standing during a show, especially since Lu’s been rocking harder lately. And again, we still ended up with a good view. (I’m so used to Dylan shows where not only is there a rail in front of the stage, but he’s set up so far back that being 6 or 8 people back from the stage tonight, we were about the same distance from Lucinda as the very front row is from Dylan; so from that standpoint, we still had a great spot to watch the show).
Interesting to hear about the soundcheck; Lafayette is another oldie I’d love to hear. It’s great that after the last year and the LA and NY album sets, plus the reintroduction of Happy Woman Blues, it really feels like anything’s possible and Lucinda could break out songs that haven’t been played in a long time. As much as people here have bemoaned the emphasis on the last couple albums (and let’s be clear, I’m one of them), she really has been playing some great old ones, too. I didn’t mention Pineola specifically in my first post, in part because I’ve seen it several times, but it’s still a classic I’d be happy to get in any show. And the best part about The Night’s Too Long was that it was such a surprise; I kind of expected Crescent City to follow I Just Wanted To See You So Bad like it did in Minneapolis.
Glad to hear you had a good time and drew similar conclusions about the show.
The buzz around the merch booth is that the “experiment” of the live webcast from Minneapolis produced lower numbers of people tuning in than expected.
That’s really too bad. I’m sure a lot of work went into it and if not many people tune in it’s hard to justify, but I for one thought it was a great idea and very well executed, the problems with the feed toward the end notwithstanding. I’d love to get to enjoy a similar webcast again in the future.
I’m very much crossing my fingers for a similar setlist tonight; I Just Wanted To See You So Bad is the song I’ve wanted to see for a long time now. If Wishes Were Horses would thrill me, too. It’s almost time to head over to the Orpheum and get in line; I’ll post the setlist tonight if no one else does before me.
Yeah, I thought it was really solid. I just looked at the setlist stoger posted from the Chicago show, and it’s about what I suspected. I sincerely hope she’ll play I Just Wanted To See You So Bad again tomorrow, and it would be great if she threw in Something About What Happens When We Talk, too (a favorite of my girlfriend’s). I’ll be really disappointed if I missed my chance to see Circles and X’s, too, but I’ll have to wait and see. I’d take tonight’s setlist in Madison, no question. In any case, that webcast was a great experience.
Dunno how I missed Inside Job’s response announcing the Madison show last month, but no worries, I got my ticket for that one. I’d love to do Chicago too, but it’s just too far to drive for one show and I couldn’t get there in time to get a good spot in front of the stage anyway. I’ve still got a smile on my face from last night’s webcast, though, and I’m looking forward to tomorrow. Have fun at tonight’s show, all that are going!
Second set, for all those interested, was:
Disgusted
Happy Woman Blues
I Just Wanted To See You So Bad
Crescent City
Something About What Happens When We Talk
Pineola
Drunken Angel
Can’t Let Go
Out Of Touch
Essence
Atonement
Righteously
Unsuffer Me
Come Ongreat show all in all, thanks again to Lu and Tom and everyone involved in bringing it to us!
LOL…yeah, it is pretty bad if you can’t even tell what song it is. 😉
I said in the chatroom there, if this was going to happen, better now than earlier. No offense, but I’ve got enough live recordings of Righteously and Unsuffer Me to last a lifetime. 🙂
