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With the final leg of the last tour producing nothing more than lackluster ticket sales and mixed reviews (cheerleading aside), it will be interesting to see where this tour goes–especially in light of double-dipping with the opener/headliner band (Buick 6) accompanying LWs. With the entertainment dollar being under siege it seems curious that Lost Highway and/or TO are not putting together a more interesting bill in terms of an opening band. After all, the possible combinations are endless! In an effort to keep it real, it’s not as if this combination was selling out the small to medium theaters where they were booked.
DavidinMaineParticipantYeah, that was 30-years ago… During the same period, I saw Van Halen at the Music Hall from the first row of the balcony–that was really awesome for a 14-year old. I do remember talking to a security guard who said it was the loudest thing he had ever heard. Very cool connection in terms of the Music Hall, huh? Who’da thunk it?!?!?
During the past several years, I keep turning on my Cleveburg peeps to concerts including David Byrne’s Feelings tour (at The Agora), Lucinda Williams (defunct small theater in The Flats), Todd Snider w/Tim Easton (Beachland), Bill Kirchen (Peabody’s), and Cross Canadian Ragweed w/Dierks Bentley (House of Blues) to name a few. I always like to visit C-Town and concerts are a perfect excuse. With the economy the way it is, Cleveland is getting great shows at it is a central stop as trucks drive-by (oh yeah, Drive-By Truckers at the Beachland, too!).
DavidinMaineParticipantThanks, Steve–I actually saw the Rust Never Sleeps tour-stop in Cleveland/Richland in 1978 as a young 14-year old high school student (went to high school on the West Side of Clevleand). As a little young dude, I was blown away as much as a little young dude could be. During that twelve month period, I saw Yes (Richland), The Kinks (Music Hall), The Rolling Stones/Peter Tosh (Municipal Stadium), and Van Halen (Music Hall). My musical world was now on its way towards being an important backdrop and critical direction-finder for my life…
DavidinMaineParticipantWow–what a sad list. From my perspective, it really is a reflection of the sorry state of affairs of the recording industry. I wonder what actual sales numbers are associated with these ranks… David Byrne’s homegrown effort comes in at 42 without any corporate/industry backing–a Cinderella story of sorts. However, I wonder how Lost Highway feels about LH coming in at 18th especially in light of all the $$$ support and what it the return regarding each unit sold. Lil Wayne at 3 and LWs at 18? Hmmm, sad, really. Where is the recording industry heading and where will it be in 5-years? How about corporate radio? As Frank Zappa once said, Kill Ugly Radio. Maybe they both will ask for a bailout in the vein of the Big Three!
DavidinMaineParticipantActually, what makes Neil so special as a singer/songwriter are his multifaceted professional and personal endeavors. We could throw Elvis Costello, David Byrne, Nick Lowe, Alejandro Escovedo, Johnny Cash, and Willie Nelson into the best singer/songwriter category however emotional and potentially volatile the ensuing dialog would be. That aside, nobody does music, song-writing, and philanthropy any better than Neil and David. They are always looking to help the greater good in all that they do—art, giving back to the community, riding a bicycle in New York for over 25-years, playing the building for free, spending $2000 per month on an online radio station just to share their love of music, The Bridge School, Living With War, The Restless Consumer, looking only to break even with touring, and so on (see their websites for more 411). It’s not just about music—there is so much more to life than that. It’s interesting when the Cheerleaders and Keepin’-it-Realists start up the bandwagon with the best ever musician stuff and concert setlists, etc. Our world is very complicated and when do we really ask ourselves “what have I done for others in terms of the gifts I have to give?” Hats-off to Neil and David for all that they do… Here’s to Sugar Mountain, the Barkers, and colored balloons!
DavidinMaineParticipantWhew…Cheerleaders and Keepin’-it-Realists are at ease. Actually and with this in mind, most Zappa fans don’t realize that Frank vacillated between the titles “Keepin’-it-Realists” and “Sheik Yerbouti” but eventually settled on Sheik Yerbouti as the final name for this album. At the time, I was kind of disappointed because I thought the title “Keepin’-it-Realists” had much more potential for album cover art!
DavidinMaineParticipantSorry to say, not at all–especially on a message board from a person who uses a fantasy name. This is not reality–this is the Internet. As I have said, it’s more akin to Dungeons and Dragons and World of Warcraft versus a place where an individual could discover opportunties for personal growth. Once again, sorry; I hope this doesn’t disappoint you and your metaphorical mirror…
DavidinMaineParticipantTaken out of context, RDM, my statement is diluted… But I do appreciate your negativity while further reflecting the idea that “All this stuff certainly speaks volumes about today’s American psychological processes at the very least…” Glad my post struck a cord for you!
DavidinMaineParticipantNot a cardinal sin–or any other type from my perspective. It really is a shame that this forum appears to have a reputation where candid and clear-headed critiques of LWs albums and works are not openly received. In fact, several participants find it necessary to respond in a hostile and bullying-type manner. Why is this? We don’t want our children to harass so why do adults carry on as such? From a different perspective, I am not a fan of HB or L@TF either. Not a big deal, just not a big fan of these and find the recordings thin and flimsy. However, there’s nothing like the sound of Gurf Morlix or Kenny Vaughn or Bo Ramsey or Charlie Sexton or Doug Pettibone helping LWs to create that Lousiana twangfest, which is her watermark. There’s really something about what happens when we talk…
DavidinMaineParticipantSounds like the board is addressing two different issues: LWs music and chemical dependency with the latter being especially slippery and way serious/dangerous. I, too, have wondered about these things and have seen several emotional and somber scenarios play out both backstage and front-of-house as well. None of my business, really, I just honor and respect the pain that everyone carries–some knowing and trusting self-medicating as a resource regardless of its outcome(s). Plato said “Be kind to everyone you meet, for everyone is fighting a hard battle.” We move to judgement so quickly. It’s true, everyone has there own stuff/junk to carry while some are more effective than others. After all and some say that it’s really about “attraction rather than promotion” in terms of our option-sets for such mind-blowing condundrums. As far as fan sites and message boards are concerned–the Internet in general–I am always amazed by the amount of reality that its users try and interject into their interactions here. In a recent cartoon two dogs were depicted sitting at a computer screen where one said to the other–“Nobody knows I am a dog on the Internet.” It’s interesting how serious people take themselves on the sites such as these. All this stuff certainly speaks volumes about today’s American psychological processes at the very least…
DavidinMaineParticipantI concur, Tom!
DavidinMaineParticipantilbu, tntcy et al:
Just a few reminders and housekeeping notes (notice no “smiley” faces):
1) This is a anonymous forum where adults (I hope) post ideas about Lucinda Williams and her music. With this in mind, such perspectives may vary so be advised. Also, this is not a real reality. It’s a freakin’ message board, yo. Yo.
2) These adults (?) then use somewhat questionable and made-up names/personas as they communicate with each other in various role play scenarios akin to a Dungeons and Dragons or World of War Craft fantasy play. Wow, are you off yet?
3) Although they may never meet, they may form clans that then bully and harass others that do not conform to their set–although imaginary–rules. Sandbox rules per say. Yeah, aren’t we great and isn’t this really the best!?
4) If one does not conform to the all-or-nothing mindset, all bets are off and one is then voted off the island by one–who often speaks for “us.” Recently, the Tom Petty crew was brought into the blog, which really heightens the I’m gonna tell mentality–hopefully Benmont Tench stays out of the fray or we’ll all be in the sh*tter!
Anyway, wishing LW all the best and many thanks, for all you have done to mend my broken heart–you have really helped me to learn how to point to the moon. In other words:
I walked out in a field, the grass was high, it brushed against my legs
I just stood and looked out at the open space and a farmhouse out a ways
And I wondered about the people who lived in it
And I wondered if they were happy and content
Were there children and a man and a wife?
Did she love him and take her hair down at night?If I stray away too far from you, don’t go and try to find me
I doesn’t mean I don’t love you, it doesn’t mean I won’t come back and
stay beside you
It only means I need a little time
To follow that unbroken line
To a place where the wild things grow
To a place where I used to always goDavidinMaineParticipantWell said, PB. Courageous, indeed. LW does seem that she carries a good deal of pain on her shoulders. And Steve, here are a few of the songs/artists/shows on my mind: David Byrne Feelings Tour with Coolbone opening: Hyannis and Cleveland shows. David Byrne My Backward Life Tour with Juana Molina Opening: Berkelee and Concord, NH. Lucinda Williams with the Jayhawks opening: Portland, ME. Lucinda Williams at 1st Ave: Fall 1989 2 shows–opening for Gram Parker, then several weeks later as a headliner. Lucinda Williams–1st leg of CWOGR with Kenny Vaughn on guitar w/Jim Lauderdale as an opener and backup vocalist–Somerville, MA. Lucinda Williams–Essence tour with Charlie Sexton, Bo Ramsey, and Doug Pettibone–Portland, ME, Cleveland and Concord, NH. Talking Heads-Detroit–Stop Making Sense. Lou Reed–Magic and Loss tour MPLS–State Theater. Prince–Diamonds and Pearls: Super Bowl Weekend 1991 at his now closed club Glam Slam. Bo Diddley and Bill Kirchen of Too Much Fun–HOB New Orleans–1996. And so forth.
DavidinMaineParticipantWho is we? How can you speak for others? Do you have the permission to be the voice of others? My posts are not condescending or arrogant. On the contrary they are well-crafted, thoughtful, and intelligent. Just because my posts don’t reflect and/or ooze a fanatical view of the latest tour/album, this does not necessarily devalue their accuracy or inherent value. If my posts accused someone of being condescending and arrogant in addition to advising him/her to “let it go,” than my posts would indeed be condescending and arrogant. There are many valid opinions and I choose to voice mine in a professional, tightly woven, and non-confrontational way. Glad you like reading them as well–it is quite evident in terms of your reactive emotionality. Thanks, for the vote of confidence!
DavidinMaineParticipantSounds like we need Whambulence for the cheerleader section of this board: “nobody understands us but us–especially as it relates to LWs music and concerts–she can do know wrong–best voice ever” and so forth. Thanks, for grouping me with the “they” not the “we” part of this board. I like the “see–I told you” part of the post. Sandbox rules, rule! If I don’t hear what I like, I’m telling and taking my toys home! Glad that your world begins and ends so simply and without critical thought. What ever happened to life long learning and exploration? Concert attendance is data and the data is telling us something. Finally, this board is a fan-based board so it is, by nature, stilted and unbalanced. So, enjoy the unbalanced nature of things.
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