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  • #30041
    Lafayette
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    My family and I are planning a trip to New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl. Whoop, whoop!

    We are staying near the French Quarter and extending our trip for a few days past the game. I would love to roam around and find some of Lu’s haunts while she lived there, the places she played, hung, etc.

    Any suggestions?

    BTW…I know, I know, Florida will own UC in this game, but so what? We’re headed to the Sugar Bowl!

    #41677
    TOverby
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    I will see if I can get Lu to put together a list of places to check out. When she played the HOB there in April, we had a great day walking around in the Quarter -and she was pointing a few a notable places etc.
    We also found some a great folk art place where be bought some great pieces -my favorite being an oar that has a steamboat painted on the paddle and the words (and song title) “Do You Know What It Means To Miss New Orleans” –which I found extremely poignant, post Katrina. I will see if I can find the name of this place. This was also the day that we bought an antique ring that was supposed to be “The ring” and I even said to her –“okay are you want this to be That ring” -and of course the answer was yes. That lasted for all of about two months when she decided that it was no longer That ring, because she now wanted a diamond to be her best friend-so to speak.

    #41678
    Lafayette
    Participant

    Are you saying Lu changes her mind a lot, i.e. ring ??? 😆

    I would LOVE a list if Lu could put one together, that would be fantastic! The folk shop sounds intriguing as well! I find it fascinating to follow in the footsteps of artists I admire most (okay, I should say artist as Mr. Mellencamp is the only other artist’s footsteps I have followed, in his home town…it’s a Mellenhead kind of thing to visit the places he grew up and where he hung). I’m looking forward to traipsing around the Quarter, drinking a hurricane or two, and ghost “stalking” Lu at the places she haunted.

    My family visited New Orleans for a few days on a family vacation, on our way to Destin, FL, pre-Katrina. We really had a great time with my fondest memory of that trip watching my youngest son, 4 at the time, wiggling his rear as he danced to some Cajun music in a souvenir shop with some Mardi Gras rubber duck beads I had just bought him. This trip was before I discovered independent music and the heart, soul, and spirit of that music, so I’m going with a renewed interest and eyes wide open. This is my first trip back, post Katrina.

    Thanks TO, as I have said before, you’re the best!

    #41679
    tntracy
    Participant

    “Tours of N’awlins by Lu”.

    I like it! :mrgreen:

    Tom

    #41680
    LWjetta
    Participant

    @tntracy wrote:

    “Tours of N’awlins by Lu”.

    Hey Lafayette;
    Seems to be one place Lu played.

    In ’72, ’73 I had a gig in New Orleans. One summer, I was down there, and I got offered this little gig playing for tips at this little place on Bourbon Street. It was a coffee shop–a bar, called Andy. Each person had a shift and you’d sit on a stool. But it was a big deal for me because it was a regular gig. That was probably the biggest turning point in my career.

    Here is the full link to her comment.

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/10/lucinda_william.php
    lwj

    c.c. T. Overby-I”m sure this will be on Lu’s list ( It’s fun to research this stuff while Lu is composing new music for us.)

    #41681
    tntracy
    Participant

    @LWjetta wrote:


    this little place on Bourbon Street. It was a coffee shop–a bar, called Andy.

    It doesn’t appear to exist any more – at least, Googling on “Andy Bourbon Street New Orleans” doesn’t find it if it does. Not surprising, really, after 35+ years!

    Tom

    #41682
    LWjetta
    Participant

    @tntracy wrote:

    It doesn’t appear to exist any more – at least, Googling on “Andy Bourbon Street New Orleans” doesn’t find it if it does. Not surprising, really, after 35+ years!

    Ok Tnt-While you were Googling, I Yahooed and found this. ( Not Bourbon St. but same name of Andy )

    New Orleans Alcoholic Beverage Control Board:
    An Inventory of Its Records at the City Archives, New Orleans Public Library
    Suspension/Revocation Dockets, 1960-1996
    1970 Andy’s Bar 5535 Magazine 55-70

    This address on Magazine St. now shows St. Joe’s Bar under the category Dive Bar
    See the review below

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/st-joes-bar-new-orleans

    Look’s like a great spot for Lafayette and family to have a hurricane or two while attending Sugar Bowl.

    lwj

    #41683
    tntracy
    Participant

    LWJ, you are truly well on your way to a PhD in Luology. Your research skills are indeed admirable… 🙂

    Have you ever stopped to consider what an awesome resource the Internet is? Without this amazing amount of information literally at our fingertips, we would all still be in “Luology Middle School” at best… 😉 😆

    Tom

    #41684
    LWjetta
    Participant

    @tntracy wrote:

    Have you ever stopped to consider what an awesome resource the Internet is? Without this amazing amount of information literally at our fingertips, we would all still be in “Luology Middle School” at best…

    Tnt
    Thanks for the kind comment.
    Just imagine all this research wouldn’t have been possible when Lu’s first album Ramblin’ came out.

    So, what if I started another trivia question about Lu to keep the Forum rolling along.
    As a wannabe Phd in Luology-what was Lu’s first song written?

    I can’t keep a secret. Here is what I discovered.

    Williams was around 12 when she wrote her first song, “The Wind Blows,” a sweet, melodic folk tune in the style of the Kingston Trio’s hit, “Where Have All the Flowers Gone?”

    lwj

    #41685
    Lafayette
    Participant

    I have St. Joe’s Bar noted! We’re staying on Magazine Street, only the other end. Thanks for helping with the misssion, tnt and lwj !

    Sidenote: UC’s football coach, Brian Kelly, just accepted coaching position at Notre Dame. He won’t be coaching the Sugar Bowl game. Sort of a bummer, but we figured it was going to happen.

    #41686
    Lafayette
    Participant

    Here is another Joe’s Bar I found googling only Joe’s Bar, New Orleans, LA. It is on Cleveland Ave, though…

    Name: Joe’s Bar
    Address: 1500 Cleveland Ave
    City, State: New Orleans, LA
    Zip: 70112

    #41687
    tntracy
    Participant

    @LWjetta wrote:


    Williams was around 12 when she wrote her first song, “The Wind Blows,” a sweet, melodic folk tune in the style of the Kingston Trio’s hit, “Where Have All the Flowers Gone?”

    lwj

    What, you couldn’t find the lyrics?!?! 😈 😉 😆

    Tom

    P.S. Lafayette, enjoy your visit to NOLA. That city will always hold a special place in my heart – not only did I visit several times when I was 12 – 14 years old, including a couple of Mardi Gras (how do you make ‘Mardi Gras’ plural?), but Sarah and I honeymooned there during Mardi Gras in February, 1989…

    #41688
    LWjetta
    Participant

    @tntracy wrote:

    What, you couldn’t find the lyrics?!?!

    Tnt-You knew I was going to respond.

    In order to keep on studying for my PhD in Luology , this was all I could find on “The Wind Blows”
    ( What else does wind do besides blow? )

    Because her dad was a writer, when she was 13, Williams started writing her own songs. She still remembers the first tune she wrote. It was a “cute little folk” number called “The Wind Blows” (“I wasn’t aware of double entendres at the time [laughs]”). She sings it to me over the telephone. It’s a sing-songy ditty:

    The wind blows and it blows through the town
    And the people in the town hear it blow . . .
    The leaves fall and they fall to the ground . . .

    She can’t remember the rest of the words, but she says that a friend from her teenage years recently sent her a recording of the song.

    Getting back to New Orleans, many years ago, my ex wife and I toured the deep South and really enjoyed our visit to such a unique historical city.
    I’ll be tuning in to the big game for sure.

    tnt

    #41689
    LWjetta
    Participant

    @LWjetta wrote:

    It was a coffee shop–a bar, called Andy.

    OK on page 321 or thereabouts on a Google search for Andy’s Bar on Bourbon St. ( not Magazine St. )
    Found the original owner of the Bar-Mr. Max Clevenger.

    Part of his obituary is as follows:

    “A skilled and ingenious carpenter, Max helped to shape the character of the Quarter in the ’60s and ’70s. In 1968, he and JoAnn opened Andy’s Bar, described by the Harvard Student Guide as the oasis of Bourbon Street. It was a venue for folk musicians, regularly featuring Les Moore, Eddie deVere, Roosevelt Sykes and Babe Stovall. Joni Mitchell and Ritchie Havens would drop in after finishing their New Orleans gigs.

    Here is the full Memorial to Max including his photo.
    http://www.wrongplacesaloon.com/memMax.htm

    I’m sure Lu would remember him.

    lwj

    #41690
    tntracy
    Participant

    @LWjetta wrote:

    OK on page 321 or thereabouts

    😯

    Tom

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