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January 26, 2010 at 11:14 pm #30096LWjettaParticipant
Saw this today:
January 26, 2010 – 12:53pm
Live Nation, Ticketmaster Merger Approved
The U.S. Department of Justice has announced its approval of the Live Nation and Ticketmaster merger. The decision will combine the ticketing and concert promotion companies under the name Live Nation Entertainment, and will require Ticketmaster to divest its Paciolan Inc. ticketing operation and license a copy of its ticketing software to Anschutz Entertainment Group. Philadelphia-based sports and entertainment company, Comcast-Spectacor has signed a letter of intent to purchase assets to Paciolan. (1/26)OK fans are we going to pay more or less to see Lucinda in the future?
Opinions please.lwj
January 26, 2010 at 11:17 pm #42053tntracyParticipantMore. TicketBastard already had a near-monopoly. This just makes it worse… 👿
Tom
January 27, 2010 at 1:31 am #42054tonygKeymasterThis has to be bad news. Two terrible companies become one super terrible company. Our government at work. 🙄
January 27, 2010 at 3:36 am #42055LafayetteParticipantYup, not good. UGH.
January 27, 2010 at 12:35 pm #42056LWjettaParticipant@Lafayette wrote:
Yup, not good. UGH.
More details from the Chicago Tribune and the likely impact on Jam Productions.
http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/turn_it_up/2010/01/live-nationticketmaster-merger-puts-chicago-institution-jam-on-the-ropes-.html
lwj
February 2, 2010 at 9:51 pm #42057bobParticipantIt’s getting to the point where I’m just not buying tix in advance; I’ll hustle them at the door on the night of the show.
I just looked at tix for Further, fees = 26% of ticket price, and that is printing them myself!
And I’m really annoyed by the ‘security words’ that I cannot read…February 3, 2010 at 1:01 am #42058TOverbyParticipantThis is the kind of information that I find very valuable. There will be much to be considered the next time Lucinda hits the road. There is no way to avoid TM/LN in many cities -in other cities there are regional/local options. Because of the assumption that this merger will cause price increases I can already see where this is going to put more pressure on the artist and managers to make adjustments so that going to a show is still a reasonable proposition to the fans. There are always things that are taken into consideration when budgeting a tour but now things are only going be much more challenging:
1) I think it will put much more onus on the artist to find ways to keep prices down, and
2) Also looking for new ways to get tickets into the hands of fans -so they don’t have to pay 25-50% in fees or try and hustle tickets on the street the day of the show because the reality of that is obviously only a small percentage of fans will do that.
3) It certainly may affect the places you play, because there are too many cities where all of the venues will be LN/TM venues, so there is no way to completely get around them.
4) It will increase the challenge to still be able to put on the show you want to put on with the best band and sound etc. Obviously to keep ticket prices down you have to keep overhead down. Someone like Lucinda would never ever compromise having a great band and great sound and never will. So will something else have to be sacrificed? I hope not. I do know that our budgets were tight this past year in trying to keep prices down. Before last years tour we looked at adding a lighting person and small lights setup but it was just too expensive so we didn’t. In the end a small sacrifice but an example of things that have to be considered.
I can say that we will do everything we can to make going to a Lucinda show an affordable and first rate show. We will find a way.
I do still want to start a fan club or some function that allows for pre-sale tickets to get into the hands of the core fans first. That is something we will do on the next tour.
As always I welcome ideas or things that you see other artists doing that we can do to make sure the experience of going to a show is still a great one. Fortunately we have some time, as Lucinda won’t be going out until the end of the year at the earliest so bring them on.February 3, 2010 at 1:18 am #42059tonygKeymasterGood idea on fan club tickets TO. Avoiding TM/LN will be hard to do.
February 3, 2010 at 1:25 am #42060tntracyParticipant@tonyg wrote:
Good idea on fan club tickets TO. Avoiding TM/LN will be hard to do.
Agreed. Also Tom, I wanted to remind you of my idea, if logistically possible, about arranging for fan club members to enter the venue ahead of other ticket holders for GA shows…
Thanks for your & Lu’s sensitivity to ticket prices & fees, Tom. As I am sure you are aware, there are some of us (myself definitely included here) that would buy tickets to see Lu regardless of the fees – we would just cut back on other shows, etc. in our entertainment budgets. In spite of that, any pressure you & Lu (and other touring artists for that matter) can put on TM/LN venues regarding fees is much, MUCH appreciated, as are all your efforts to keep ticket prices overall as affordable as possible. Thank you.
Tom
February 3, 2010 at 6:18 am #42061LafayetteParticipantI just purchased tix to see Amos Lee at Mercy Lounge in Nashville, TN, standing room capacity 500. A link was provided on his website to purchase tickets thru AEG Live / The Messina Group. Ticket price was $22 with an additional $4.75 fee, a little over 20% of ticket price. Added ticket fees suck, for the artist and the fan.
Following is link with information on the venues they book, for what it’s worth, in case you are unfamiliar with this group.
http://www.aegliveme.com/content.php?section=about&page=about
Thanks for always thinking about the fans! I certainly appreciate it, knowing you and Lu are trying to contain costs.
February 4, 2010 at 5:36 pm #42062LWjettaParticipant@Lafayette wrote:
Ticket price was $22 with an additional $4.75 fee, a little over 20% of ticket price. Added ticket fees suck, for the artist and the fan.
20% is cheap.
Here is what I paid to see Lu in Toronto, October 10, 2009
$2.00 for what?
$12.00 Convenience fee to Live Nation
$14.00 total out of $56.50 grand total That’s a whopping 33% fee on the face valueHELP us TOverby
Thankslwj[attachment=0:180cz93k]LW ticket Oct 2009.JPG[/attachment:180cz93k]
February 4, 2010 at 6:31 pm #42063LWjettaParticipantJust one more comparison in ticket prices
This is going away back but it shows what inflation / gouging has done to TicketMaster, etc.
This is from September 26, 1998 from the Shoreline Amphitheatre in MountainView, Ca
A concert with Bob Dylan, Van Morrison and Lucinda.o Prices: $45 seats, $35 lawn (add BASS charges)
Seat ticket total was $49.50 , therefore face value markup of $4.50 was a more reasonable 10%[attachment=0:1blmm2vy]Lucinda Williams Sep. 26, 1998.jpg[/attachment:1blmm2vy]
lwjFebruary 4, 2010 at 6:36 pm #42064tntracyParticipantMore than tripling of fees percentage in 11 years? Outrageous! 👿 👿 👿
Tom
February 4, 2010 at 11:06 pm #42065LafayetteParticipantBastards.
There, I said it.
February 4, 2010 at 11:09 pm #42066tntracyParticipant@Lafayette wrote:
Bastards.
There, I said it.
And I second it! 👿 😡
Tom
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