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  • #29536
    stevarino
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    Does anyone know the legal issues between Lucinda and Koch Entertainment with the self titled album? Its one of her best albums, and its currently out of print, and in the webcast last Thursday she did not even mention it as the source of any of her songs. Not sure you can properly cover Lu’s work without including a few songs from this one like “Big Red Sun” or “Side of the Road”. Is Koch Entertainment being a complete asshole and not allowing her to perform any of the music on this album, and refusing to give, or sell the rights back to her. The only Lucinda Williams I can find on their website is her lovely version of Kate Bush’s “Here in California”. I’d love to know what is going on here.

    Steve

    He presses up against her
    and his shirt’s all soaked with sweat
    and with her back against the bar
    She can listen to the band
    and she’s holdin’ a Corona
    and its cold against her hand

    #37970
    tntracy
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    She did play “I Just Wanted To See You So Bad” & “Crescent City” on the Webcast.

    And, she has played others (like “Side of the Road” & “Changed the Locks”, e.g. – the latter a lot), not to mention (OK, I mentioned it 😉 ), it was one of the five albums played in LA & NY last year. So, other than it being currently out of print, I do not think there is any other problem with the rights, etc., or am I missing something?

    Tom

    #37971
    stevarino
    Participant

    Tom,

    I know she played “I Just Wanted To See You So Bad” & “Crescent City”, but she did not credit them to the S/T album during the webcast. She credited them to a B/T or some other album or studio I didn’t recognize.

    Tom, the fact that this awesome album is out of print means we are missing something.

    Steve

    #37972
    parkerca
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    I think she usually credits these songs as songs on the “rough trade” album. This is the label the S/T album is on.
    As far as I know and what Inside Job has said, it is going to be re-released early next year.

    #37973
    Inside Job
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    Yes -Lucinda owns the S/T album outright. She often refers to this album as the Rough Trade album because that is the first label it was on. No issues with Koch -it was only licensed to them but that license expired about 3 yrs ago.
    The plan is still to re-release a 20th anniversary deluxe version early next year.

    #37974
    stevarino
    Participant

    Cool, That’s always my first recommendation to first time listeners, but since its out of print…… Second recommendation is Car Wheels. I’ve obviously got the Kock version, and didn’t realize it was originally on the Rough Trade Label. Thanks for the explanation. I still think she skipped over some really good material on this album.

    #37975
    janka
    Participant

    If anyone here still has a turntable you can still get sealed copies of the original LP release from this source. http://lpnow.stores.yahoo.net/th4862.html. They also have the Passionate Kisses Ep in stock. I’m in no way affilated with them but did order a few copies for myself a year or so ago.

    #37976
    tntracy
    Participant

    And, for those still needing a copy, the Koch CD release also shows up fairly regularly on eBay, usually for a reasonable price…

    Tom

    #37977
    stevarino
    Participant

    janks,

    Thanks for the link, I ordered the Rought Trade LP over the weekend. I think its going to replace my Led Zeppelin framed In Through the Out Door album in my media room. I’ll take it to the next LW concert I attend with the hopes of getting it signed. What a nice trophy that would be along with a with a photo inset of her signing it. ha ha.

    Steve

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